Monday, March 3

Stop the horror in Gaza!

Peaceful demonstration in Jaffa today at 18.00 at "Gan HaShanayim" against the horror in Gaza

Yes, i am aware rockets are falling in Sderot and Ashkelon and that's awful and horrid, yet NOTHING justifies what the Israeli army is doing in the Gaza strip. there is only one word for what the IDF is doing in the Gaza strip: war-crime.

It's about time we sat down and talked. Yes: talked to Hamas.


Steve said...

I don’t get what this whole disproportionately thing is all about. You don’t win wars by acting proportionally.

You win wars by crushing your enemy. They pull a knife, you pull a gun. They put one of your men in the hospital, you put one of theirs in the morgue.

You must fight on their level. With trickery, brutality, finality. You must match their evil.

Did you know that two thousand years ago a Roman citizen could walk across the face of the known world free of the fear of molestation? He could walk across the earth unharmed, cloaked only in the words ‘Civis Romanis’ I am a Roman citizen. So great was the retribution of Rome, universally understood as certain, should any harm befall even one of its citizens?

Tit for tat does lead to more violence. And isn’t that what proportionality really means?

If you aren’t fighting with disproportionately then you aren’t fighting to win, And if you aren’t fighting to win then you are just continuing the cycle of violence. Don’t get me wrong. I am not one of those who say that violence never solved anything. Ask what the city fathers of Hiroshima what they say about it and you know what they would say? NOTHING, Hiroshima was destroyed. Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn’t solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst.

No, I am not a pacifist. But the truth is that when you fight you fight in order to totally destroy your enemy’s will and capacity to fight. You totally overwhelm them.

Anything less than that is just unnecessary cruelty.

Lirun said...

interesting - steve commented on mine as well.

Patt said...

It Looks like War Crimes to me.Unfortuanatly the outside world wont step in and Deal with these Jewish Murders.It shames me that my Government does nothing to stop this mass Murder.

Whisper said...




Lirun said...

230 gazan rockets hitting ashqelon last week and thats not mentioning all the rockets that hit other israeli towns.. does that bother you?

yudit said...

One man ni Gaza lost his six small children, another woman lost her 2 month old baby
Does that bother you, Lirun?

Comparing violence with more violence is stupid.
the only thing to be done is TALK

Perdix said...

Rockets ?
We are talking about unguided pieces of stovepipe falling from the air.

Lirun said...

yudit.. of course it does.. and you know it does.. i talk about both sides.. almost always.. but while we target launchers (albeit tragically installed amongst civillians) they purposely target sderot and ashkelon..

you obviously dont understand the meaning of a war crime..

i am far from delighted by the tragedies bestowed on gaza.. but the international analysis on this post doesnt help anyone..

these are truly aweful and complicated times..

Luke said...

Technically speaking these "they" do not have another choice, without the
good aiming equipment one has to find a large wide target.
I agree with the indiscriminating choice of victims but what are we, who do not have any objections to use clusterbombs to our opponents?

Anonymous said...

"One man ni Gaza lost his six small children, another woman lost her 2 month old baby. Does that bother you?"

That's war.

War is Hell - you can not refine it.

Anonymous said...

I wish my Government (Canada) would stand up and demand these horrors stop also. I am ashamed to be part of the human race. Can you imagine if we all stood up and said 'no' we won't kill anymore, for any reason. I don't even care who's fault it is.....I see all this talk of love and peace and then we turn around and kill each other. We're all to blame because this is the world we have created. We either commit the crimes or sit back and do nothing. Collectively we could do something if we were half serious about it.